{"id":13053,"date":"2017-07-10T06:23:40","date_gmt":"2017-07-10T13:23:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/?p=13053"},"modified":"2022-06-04T18:02:28","modified_gmt":"2022-06-05T01:02:28","slug":"process-party-episode-40-phase-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/process-party-episode-40-phase-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Process Party \u2013 Episode 40 &#8211; PHASE 2!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13054\" src=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/PHASE-2-TITLE.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"498\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/PHASE-2-TITLE.jpg 720w, https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/PHASE-2-TITLE-300x208.jpg 300w, https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/PHASE-2-TITLE-299x207.jpg 299w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Study Group Comics<\/strong>\u00a0has a podcast! Join hosts\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/zacksoto\/\">Zack Soto<\/a>\u00a0(Secret Voice, Power Button) &amp;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mikedawsoncomics.com\/\">Mike Dawson<\/a>\u00a0(Rules For Dating My Daughter, Troop 142) as they discuss their own creative processes, comic art, family life, and a ton of other stuff.<br \/>\nEach episode finds a new guest from the world of comics joining Mike &amp; Zack for an in depth conversation, and occasional guest segments from their pals around the world.\u00a0<strong>Subscribe\u00a0<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/study-group-radio-process\/id1168702536\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">via iTunes<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/study-group-comics\/process-party?\">Stitcher<\/a>, or a podcatcher of your choice, or via the embedded audio in the posts themselves. \u00a0<em>(Yes, some\u00a0of those links below are Amazon Affiliate links that kick a little bit our way if you click through to buy them. Mea Culpa) \u00a0<\/em>Follow us on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/processparty\/\">Facebook<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/processpartypod\">Twitter<\/a>, and check out\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/mikedawwwson\/posts\">Mike<\/a>\u00a0&amp;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/zacksoto\">Zack\u2019s<\/a>\u00a0personal Patreon pages.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This episode: PHASE 2!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s Phase 2, you ask? Well, it&#8217;s not much, really. We just got to joking around about being relaxed from our respective recent vacations. Anyway,<strong> WELCOME TO PHASE 2!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This episode is actually <strong><em>One From The Vaults.<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0Way back in April 2015, Mike and Zack had an extended chat on Mike&#8217;s old podcast <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tcj.com\/category\/columns\/tcj-talkies\/\">TCJ Talkies<\/a>, which was sort of a &#8220;book club&#8221; kinda thing. The two met in the glorious, unspoiled past to talk about one of the biggest superhero comics of the 1990s: <a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2txIztC\">Kingdom Come by Mark Waid &amp; Alex Ross<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13057\" src=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/superman-22-kingdom-come-special-superman.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"557\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/superman-22-kingdom-come-special-superman.jpg 720w, https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/superman-22-kingdom-come-special-superman-300x232.jpg 300w, https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/superman-22-kingdom-come-special-superman-299x231.jpg 299w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what Mike wrote about our\u00a0talk in 2015:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Cartoonist and publisher\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/zacksoto\/\">Zack Soto<\/a>\u00a0joins me in the Talkie Hutt for a chat about the DC Elseworlds classic\u00a0Kingdom Come. Written by Mark Waid and illustrated by Alex Ross, this 1996 series tells a story set in a dark alternate DC universe, where all the fondly remembered iconic superheroes of our childhoods have stepped aside to make way for a new breed of irresponsible \u201cgritty\u201d metahumans, who are more interested in fighting one another than protecting Truth and Justice. It doesn\u2019t take too deep a reading to see this plot as the old-guard superhero writers and artists grumping about the comics publishing upheavals of the 1990s, when grim antiheroes like the Punisher and Wolverine reigned supreme, and upstart, \u201cundisciplined\u201d comics publishers like Image burst onto the scene.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This book was a tricky one, because it\u2019s very hard for me to reconcile how I feel about it. Which is apt, given that so much of that probably has to do with nostalgia, and\u00a0Kingdom Come\u00a0is nothing if not a several-hundred-page long, lushly watercolored wallow in the nostalgia pond. Zack and I spend a good amount of time talking about Alex Ross, and how unlike many Image cartoonists from those days (most notably Rob Liefeld), Ross doesn\u2019t seem to have enjoyed a redemptive reevaluation amongst what you\u2019d call the current \u201cart-comics\u201d crowd.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Also in this episode: an extended excerpt from a paper written on\u00a0Kingdom Come\u00a0by comics academic and\u00a0Cartozia Tales\u00a0publisher Isaac Cates, entitled\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/americanliterature.dukejournals.org\/content\/83\/4\/831.abstract\">\u201cOn The Literary Use of Superheroes; or Batman and Superman Fistfight in Heaven\u201d<\/a>, published in\u00a0American Literature. Isaac was gracious enough to allow me to read a lengthy portion of his writing, which I am grateful for, as I felt it helped dig into the plot and themes of\u00a0Kingdom Come\u00a0in a direct way, and set up the ensuing conversation with Zack very well.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>This was a fun back and forth, and is in many ways a proto-Process Party! Hear our first inkling of rapport, here in this window to the past!\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>BUT FIRST:<\/strong> Mike &amp; Zack catch up after their travels, get excited about Patreon goals, talk about movie habits (&amp; touch on Spider-Man: Homecoming), and have a Democratic Minute!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13022\" src=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/patreon-banner-PP-e1497847340119.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"180\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>PS: DON\u2019T FORGET!<\/strong>\u00a0We\u2019ve finally launched our super cool\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/processpartypod\">Process Party Patreon<\/a>! If you enjoy\u00a0the pod and want to help support us in what we do, now is your chance to kick in. There\u2019s a few reward tiers available, including the low low $1\/month, but if you\u00a0subscribe at the\u00a0$3\/month level, you will get access to\u00a0an\u00a0<strong>exclusive Patreon-only weekly podcast feed!<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s a whole extra podcast for less than 1$\/episode of the main feed!<\/p>\n<p>If the main Process Party podcast is like being in the mix chatting with cartoonists at a convention party,\u00a0<strong><em>Process Party: Real Talk\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>is the\u00a0<em>afterparty<\/em>, when the walls come down and the real talk, advice and gossip flow freely!\u00a0\u00a0Every week we ask our guests to impart a little *extra* bit of wisdom, some nuts &amp; bolts how-to info or philosophy, and of course a heavy dose of every cartoonist\u2019s number one concern: GETTING PAID IN COMICS! These minisodes contain exclusive content not included in the regular podcast!<\/p>\n<div>Our guests come from a variety of backgrounds and places in their careers, and they all have advice for you. From how to mentally balance comics and day-jobs, to nuts and bolts advice about turning comics panels into cold hard cash. Hear exclusive tidbits about the industry, insider stuff that\u2019s\u00a0\ud83d\udd25\u00a0too hot\ud83d\udd25\u00a0to include in the public podcast, and more.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>If you\u00a0<em>really<\/em>\u00a0love the pod, you can sign up for the $5\/month level and get everything in the lower tiers, but\u00a0<strong>we\u2019ll also do one extra-special minisode a month<\/strong>\u00a0where Mike &amp; Zack will review the stuff they are reading or watching at the moment! What did they think of that one movie about the people or places? What cool old\/new comics are they digging on this month? If you like the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/process-party-episode-14-5-teenage-memedream\/\">Teenaged Memedream\u00a0<\/a>episode, this tier is for you! This is a mainline fix of our patented \u201cjibba-jabba.\u201d<\/div>\n<div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13059\" src=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/real-talk-shiga.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"347\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/real-talk-shiga.jpg 720w, https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/real-talk-shiga-300x145.jpg 300w, https:\/\/zack-soto.com\/studygroup\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/real-talk-shiga-299x144.jpg 299w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/div>\n<div><strong>Episode 4 of Real Talk is with the immortal Jason Shiga!<\/strong> Get in on the ground floor of the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/processpartypod\">Process Party Patreon<\/a>\u00a0and make sure you don\u2019t miss an episode of Real Talk!\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/processpartypod\">Real Talk updates every Thursday only for Patreon subscribers<\/a>.<\/strong><\/div>\n<div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13022\" src=\"http:\/\/studygroupcomics.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/patreon-banner-PP-e1497847340119.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"180\" \/><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Episode 40: PHASE 2!\u00a0<\/strong>What&#8217;s Phase 2, you ask? Well, it&#8217;s not much, really. We just got to joking around about being relaxed from our respective recent vacations. Anyway,\u00a0WELCOME TO PHASE 2! This episode is actually\u00a0<em>One From The Vaults.<\/em>\u00a0Way back in April 2015, Mike and Zack recorded a conversation in the glorious, unspoiled past to talk about one of the biggest superhero comics of the 1990s:\u00a0Kingdom Come by Mark Waid &amp; Alex Ross. 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Join hosts\u00a0Zack Soto\u00a0(Secret Voice, Power Button) &amp;\u00a0Mike Dawson\u00a0(Rules For Dating My Daughter, Troop 142) as they discuss their own creative processes, comic art, family life, and a ton of other stuff. 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